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that situation in florida. sounds like a very liberal man. i don't know. i do support patriotism all the way. whatever that requires. >> sean: whether you like rudy giuliani or not, he literally put his life on the line that way -- that and he was amazing force during that very difficult time as was president bush. >> sean: i hear you, the world hears you and soon the people who knocked down that building will hear from all of us. >> that day, you had two presidents standing there side by side to make it political is unfortunate. >> sean: greta is next, we'll see you tomorrow night. >> greta: this is a fox news alert. polls are closed in new york state. ballots are being counted now. we are standing by for results. the congressional seat is up for grabs that no one thought would be won by a republican. tonight it is very close.
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the race for the seat left open when anthony weiner stepped down in shame after tweeting several self-portraits of himself to women across the country. yes, there were theeird phone calls. tonight many are saying this is not about congressman weiner or the two candidates fighting for the sea. many say this race is about -- for the seat. many say this race is about president obama. the first time since 1923 it will send a tsunami-sized shock wave to the white house. right now our economy. it is a mess. you already knew that. any ideas what to do? wisconsin congressman paul ryan has an idea. chairman of the house budget committee. nice to see you. you have an idea about the tax code? >> absolutely. as i mentioned before, we've been passing a lot of reforms and ideas from the house to create jobs. they are stacking up in the senate. one of the things was to lower our tax rays on businesses and
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individuals to no higher than 25% to pay for that by closing loopholes. make us more competitive so we don't tax our job creators more than our foreign competitors are taxes their companies. that gives business a certainty. certainty so they know what tax rates are going to be not just today but in the future so they have more confidence to hire around invest in the future. >> greta: we have a sneak peek. you have a video coming out that shows what you want. tell me what this video -- when are you going to release it and why? >> we are releasing it tomorrow morning. basically it is a complicated issue. our tax code is extremely complicated. it is so complicated is one of the reasons why our economy is not growing well now. we do what i call crony capitalism. we pick winners and losers through hoop locals. some businesses don't pay a lot of taxes, other businesses play by the rules and pay high
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tax rates. we tax our businesses at higher tax rays than our foreign competitors tax theirs and we are losing in global competition. if we want a good economy, prosperous america, we need to be competitive on our tax policies. right now we are taxing american businesses at rights higher than our foreign competitors are taxing theirs. get rid of the loopholes, lower rates on everybody stop picking winners and losers in washington and we can start creating jobs. i just did a town hall meeting over the phone, talked to four small business owners telling me, certainty is the problem. i did all these round tables with manufacturers in wisconsin in august. uncertainty is plaguing them. the key question what is the government going to do to me next? those are the things not being addressed in the new jobs bill the president is sending us.
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those are things job creators are telling us they need so they can start planning and investing and having confidence. >> greta: one of the dirty secrets is that loophole, earmarks, whatever, they favor somebody. >> absolutely. >> greta: they are there because somebody got to his congressman -- or senator and got there. it has been -- cronyism. >> republicans and democrats alike both parties are responsible for this. what it has done is made it is so unfair and our tax rates so much higher. >> greta: you said over the last decade on average at least one change to the tax code is made everyday. how can that be? how can that possibly be? >> because congress passes lots of complicated tack laws gives a lot of direction to the irs who fills up all these tax regulations so you have so many new tax enforcement
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regulations coming out that it is extremely difficult to navigate the tax code. in the name of interest or whatever, congress is putting special exceptions in the tax code for certain activities and certain industries. that helps incumbent businesses protect the market share, barrier of entry to other would be be smaller businesses in order to raise the revenue for the government you have to have higher tax rates as a result. we are saying get rid of loopholes, lower everybody's rates so the determiner of whether a business fails or succeed is not a congressman putting in a loophole in but whether or not they have a good product, whether they are innovative or not. >> greta: hasn't had much of an overall since 1986. everyone agrees that it is so complex. everyone agrees it is a mess it shows favoritism that it hurts business. i can understand there could
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be debate over what we do or a fair tax, flat tax, whatever. why are we at this position? what has taken congress so long? what is going to take congress to do something, because it is a problem. >> this has bipartisan support. there are democrats, along with the republicans who agree with these things we are saying. >> greta: bill nelson said something today. >> president's fiscal commission proposed this. this is what i think we have a shot at working together on a bipartisan basis to fix this. both democrats and republicans acknowledge this is a problem and ought to be fixed. get great is the push-back? >> the in-- industrieses and businesses care about those and fight hard for these things. and the general public that generally wants a fairer,
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simpler system not fight as haven'tly. it is a sense of concentrated special interests at the expense of the greater good. that's what we have to overcome. we have a good-bye partisan consensus this is not the way we should be doing things. the fear i have with the president's economic policies, promises new tax increase, another stimulus spending which is the last stimulus bill divided by to half as much with new tax increases on top it is missing the boat on passing ideas that have proven to work and repeating the mistakes of moving ideas that have prove event to fail this is an area where a lot of democrat agree i would love to see if we can get the president focused on these kinds of ideas. a lot of people in his party agree with us. >> greta: i'm curious about one thing that i read to fund this 450 billion dollar plan that 400 billion, will be to do away with charitable
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deductions for certain people who have a certain income. explain to me, most people give to charity to help poor people. there's the 0 kaegs al person who gives a piece of art to the museum, -- usually it is soup kitchens, hospitals, schools, cancer units. why are we -- we will discourage people from giving if we take away that advantage. of course that cuts against your thing to get rid of the loopholes. >> out of all the loopholes this is the fairest the most broad based. this isn't congress trying to prop up one industry ethanol or solar panels this is saying if you dough tate to your charity and community, you can write-off that donation. -- taking away from that to pay for stimulus spending that has already proven to fail, two bad ideas. we've proven rebates and other things aren't working. didn't work when bush tried them.
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didn't work when president obama tried. then taking away the source of capital that go to charities at a time we need our charities to step up because we have tough economic times. i don't understand why they would propose that. permanent tax increases to pay for temporary spending binge is not good economics. whenever we've done these things in the past they haven't created jobs. that's why people like me are saying here's an area where most of us agree. we have a tax system maybing us less competitive. hurting jobs. injecting tons of uncertainy into the corporations and buys of america. let's deal with that. -- and businesses of america. let's deal with that. we passed a lot of ideas in the house to create jobs. energy policy, regulatory reform stacking up in the senate where they haven't been acted on this is one of those ideas we would like to see an effort. we hear democrats say they want to do this. >> greta: bonfire on the mall,
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burn the tax code on start over. i bet there isn't a member of congress who does his or own tax return it is so complicated. >> probably not. i've been on the ways and means committee for over a decade. this committee did a lot of this. i have to tell you, what the tax code is being used for today is to try and micromanage and social engineer economic activity. instead of raising proper amount of revenue for the government in the most efficient way possible so we can maximize commission growth and remove barriers from businesses that want to get started that want to invest. all the small business people i met with throughout the month of august at home and truth wisconsin are telling me i have no idea what my tax rays are going to be in 2013 so why -- tax rates are going to be in 2013, so why would i take a risk? more borrowing and spending today in whatever you want to
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call a stimulus package, i think it is a poor substitute for fixing these broken -- >> greta: the video will be posted tomorrow on your website, thank you. >> thank you. >> greta: now to the congressional race in new york. polls are closed. everyone is on edge waiting for the results. joining us is fox news eric shawn. >> the audience and supporters for republicans bob turner juster resulted in applause. the first results coming in. the -- the race too close to with six of 512 precincts reporting it shows the republican 56% bob turner against 43% for david weprin. i want to stress these first results are very early. this district is one of the bluest in the nation. the registration of democrats over republicans is 3-1. it has sent illustrious
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democrats to washington. including geraldine ferraro. chuck schumer. they hope this raisins a message to. >> o. and one -- this race -- this will be the first time in about 90 years that -- . i the lastest polls show turner has been up over his democratic opponent by six points. turner has hammered away at. >> 's policy. making the obama administration the centerpiece of his campaign. he has criticized mr. obama's economic policies. dealing with jobs and israel criticizing the president's call for the 1967 borders this
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is the district in the country that has the heaviest population of jewish voters. they apparently are coming out strongly for turner. his opponent is an orthodox jew david weprin. he has been a city councilman. he tried to paint turner as being a member of the tea party and criticized republican points on social security and medicare. tonight it is questionable if that made a lot of traction. president obama's name was not on the ballot. many here say, it might as well have been. >> rightly or wrongly, that's how this will be interpreted and perceived. that's how many of the voters are looking at it. things are wrong in washington. they want to raise their voice against it. protest. and i'm happily the messenger that will go to washington and let them know >> my opponent admires leaders
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of the tea party. he's identified with member of the tea party who clearly brought our country to the brink of default and really not only held the country hostage and the economy hostage but also held the republican party hostage. >> in 2008 president obama won this district with 55%, by 11%. in one of the last it latest polls his approval rating 31%. less than 1/3 in a heavily democraticb5r district. mr. weprin had robo calls from former president clinton, governor cuomo. noticeably absent from that list, president obama. mr. turner had the support of rue die giuliani -- rudy giuliani and ed koch who just walked that this room. several crossed party lines to endorse bob turner in this race. no matter who wins, it could be a moot point. it may be best known for an accomplishment of victory
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because this district is said to be redistricted out of business to vanish by 2013. anthony weiner moved too the manhattan and he did vote for mr. weprin the democrat. weprin by the way doesn't even live in this district. you can hear some of the chants and the calls, people here tonight on edge, nervous, also somewhat confident it depends how much of the orthodox jewish vote came out in brooklyn. there was strong showings and turn-out in some of the most conservative areas in queens. it looks as if this may be a long night, despite the optimism here. we are seeing peter king and mayor ed koch now speaking to the crowd. [ cheering ] >> greta: i was going to ask why the cheering in the background. it is the entrance of the party celebrities, is that right? >> yeah, that's right many no
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new numbers now it is very early. you can't take much from a 56%-43%. to polls show that mr. turner the republican was up by six points in two polls. that caused a lot of excitement for the folks here. there was a great effort by the democrats to deploy an army of 1,000 or more on the seats today. new york city mayor koch revered in this city. he supported bob turner and he's speaking now. >> greta: which is extraordinary. former democratic mayor supporting him. eric, thank you. >> straight ahead, former governor paw:city out of the race for the white house. but he is -- pawlenty is out of the race for the white house, but he is making news. vice president cheney and his daughter liz go on the record. what happened between the former vice president and condoleeza rice?
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>> greta: minnesota's former governor pawlenty wanted to be president. he said harsh things about his competitors then in the iowa straw poll he hated those results so jumped out of the race. but he's back with a surprise.
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good evening. with >> good evening to you. >> greta: you are now co-chair? >> of governor romney's campaign for president. the next president will have to lead at a historic level on jobs and the economy. he has unmatched skills and experience when it comes to private sector job growth and leadership and turning around the economy. boy does our economy feed that. i think he's the right candidate for the job. >> greta: how do i believe you, that you really think that? you said this was during the campaign about governor romney and his health care in massachusetts. you said things like, i don't think we can have a nominee involved in the development and construction of obama care and continues to defend it. that was july. you called him a co-conspirator to president obama. you have linked him so much with this health care. how can you now say that he's your candidate when you said this was so important?
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>> i talked to mitt and he shared with me directly as he has repeatedly with the nation that he's absolutely committed to repealing obama care. on day one when he's in office he will issue an executive order to allow states to opt-out. [ talking over each other ] >> greta: he said that stuff before you got out of race and you didn't buy it then. >> i believe fully with my heart, mitt romney is good to his word saying he will repeal obama care. for most republican primary voters that's a very important commitment and he has made it. i've talked to him about it directly. >> greta: if the republicans are saying he still defends health care in massachusetts. >> we agree on this, mitt and i agree each state can try their own thing. pass mass tried its own way. he agrees and i agree it is the -- wrong program, wrong direction for the country and
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he's committed to repealing it. beyond that you look at that debate last night. look at his skills, steady, smart, engaged,nd, presidential. importantly, his background is about turning around bad economies, bad economic situations. that is precisely the talents we need for the next president. >> greta: governor perry says he can do a better job tea created more jobs than governor romney. we are hearing it from governor perry something different. >> there's no candidate in this race who can match mitt romney's private sector experience. starting businesses, growing businesses, providing jobs. >> greta: he took some businesses apart didn't he? in the 80s, me if i'm wrong they would get businesses and disassemble them as a result, destroy jobs not create jobs? >> if you look the total scope of his private sector business record it is about incredible
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economic investment and job growth. were there some companies that didn't do as well? of course. his total record will be unmatched. he did it in the private sector. we need a president as we've painfully learned with barack obama, you put somebody in that oval office who has not served in a leadership position, executive position and you have a problem. that's part of the reason we have a problem now. barack obama is diskbgt , disrespects the private sector. -- does understand entrepreneurs the formation of capital. doesn't understand and respect private sector job growth. mitt romney does. >> greta: did he call you or did you call him? >> we swapped numbers. >> greta: who made the first call? >> when i dropped out, he called and we talked several other times since. >> greta: what was it that he
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said? how did it go? i would like you to join me as co-care, we said mean things about each other, -- co-chair, we said mean things about each other, how does it work? >> i have no question these the strongest candidate to be the republican party's nominee, unite the party and go on to win this election. i've known mitt for years. he and i served as governors for a long time many we faced many of the same issues. i have a high regard for him. he's the most capable, knowledgeable and electable candidate. >> greta: is it hard after you have said bad things to become colleagues? >> look at hillary -- >> greta: right secretary of state clinton and barack obama are a good example. >> you compete hard, at the end if you are a good spars man or woman, you shake hands and say hard fought, well
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played. >> greta: i think i hold grudges. i think you are a better person. good luck, it is going to be a long race, thanks. >> next, vice president cheney goes on the record from waterboarding to the iraq war. he's sparking a lot of controversy with his new book. there's something about the vice president we bet you didn't know until now. here's a hint, polka dancing. that's all you get. stay tuned @?ñ
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>> greta: he has no regrets and he's making no apologies. cheney is getting a lot of attention with his new book. vice president cheney wrote the book with the help of his daughter liz. they both went on the record. you both worked together on this book this is hardly the first time you two are working to the. >> no liz helped me get elected when i ran for congress the first time. >> four, five. >> she has been involved in all my campaigns. she ran the search when i was in charge of finding a vice president for george bush as my chief of staff person on that whole process. we've done a lot together. >> greta: easy to work with or not? >> he's great to work with. this was a tremendous project to be able to spend such
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intense time with your dad. hearing about his life. >> listening to my old war stories. rare treat to get a child who will sit and listen to all of that. >> it is a different description in the book from what mary said. she describes one opportunity working with you nine days of hell when she campaigned with you in 200. -- in 2000. a little different not that i was hard to work for, but rather stuff happened. it began with campaign where i made a speech on the complexities of bond finance and to build schools to a room full of third kidders in florida. i was a mismatch between the speech and the audience. that happened every once in a while. it took a few days to get on track when i first started campaigning again. >> greta: you have no idea how lucky you are. i book that you got dragged into a polka dance campaign in illinois. we looked for that video. >> you can't find it.
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>> greta: if you were in high school it would have ruined your life. >> i'm not a good dancer i'm just fortunate it didn't show up in the book. >> greta: we found four, five seconds. >> it was worth seeing. it shows you what you have to do on the campaign trail, totally unexpected. >> you dan the polka. >> greta: [ unintelligible ] >> makes me mad. i think that in politics, people are going to disagree. clearly, a lot of the policies that my dad has been involved in are once that are controversial. one of the reasons i'm glad he decided to write the back was -- the book was to layout the reasons behind the policies.
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you hope you can have a debate about the policies. people will read it and say, i still don't agree, but now i understand why they did it. most people who read it hopefully will come to understand the wisdom of the decisions. the best debate you want there will be folks yelling and screaming part of that is the way our system works. i don't think they make as important contribution to the system and country as those who debate on substance. >> greta: does it bother you the war criminal signs and posters? >> no. i spent time at the university of wisconsin in my youth as a student in the days when there was a lot of disruption and demonstration and violence on campuses across america. i think what we see today is pretty tame. >> greta: people do talk about today as if it is so rough and everything. going back through your career, your book, it has always been a rough -- it is a contact
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sport, politics. >> it is. >> greta: any regrets? >> to, i have loved every minute -- no, i have loved every minute of it. i started out i was going to be a academic, wanted to be a professor came to washington to stay 12 months stretched into more than 40 years. enormous privilege to have the opportunity to serve to get to do the things i've been able to do. the people i've worked with. the issues we had to grapple with. some were pretty tough. being secretary of defense. and responsible for in those days four million employees and troops in the department of defense. "desert storm" sending half a million troops to the gulf. or the events of 9/11 and the aftermath as we put in place policies to collect intelligence we needed to keep the country safe. a lot of criticism i get these days relates to that period
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after 9/11. i came to grips with that a long time ago am i believe deeply in what we did. >> greta: the most controversial is the enhanced interrogation. i'm curious, obviously, i know that you supported it or you wouldn't have gone along with it and still backing it. i'm curious, do you worry let's say that it ever develops on the streets of washington where someone gets picked up for a crime, are you worried it is taken behind war into the domestic area? >> i think on enhanced interrogation the president and properly so, was very, very careful and very, very insistent upon safeguards that would make we didn't interfere with any individuals legitimate constitutional rights. when we got into enhanced
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interrogation, waterboarding, that's the one held out as the rough stuff, that was done on three people. khalid sheikh mohammed primarily the man hmong other thins responsible probably for the murder of daniel pearl "wall street journal" reporter who was beheaded. and claimed himself and there's no reason to doubt it, that he was the man behind 9/11. he killed 3,000 americans on that day. he was subjected to enhanced interrogation techniques. but it was done only after the justice department signed off on it. after the director of the cia approved the particular program is applied to khalid sheikh mohammed and the president signed off on the policy, national security council signed off and the justice department handed down a ruling saying this was not torture. we were very careful not to get into a situation where there was a danger that some
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americans are going to be arrested on the street and subjected to that kind of treatment. >> greta: you don't worry in the next administration or the next 20 years or something there is going to be some slippery slope that was accepted now will be used beyond that? >> i don't think so. our concern greta, was on the morning after 9/11. that when the president was very strong in this as well, that we were not ever going to let that happen again on our watch. and we were going to do whatever we had to do by way of putting together a policy that was effective in protecting and safeguarding the american people that's what we did and it worked. and i was done in accordance with our normal practices and procedures in terms of how we make policy many how we safeguard the rights of american citizens. so i'm very comfortable with what we did. the other option would have been to say we are not going
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to use those techniques. and if we lose more americans, so about it. obviously we weren't going to allow that to happen. >> greta: there's much more of our interview with our nation's 46th vice president coming up. we know the public side of vice president cheney. what was going on behind the scenes at the white house? the stuff we didn't get to see. the vice president is blunt. he is going to tell you, next. if you have painful, swollen joints, i've been in your shoes. one day i'm on p of the world... the next i'm saying... i have this thing called psoriatic arthritis. i had some intense pain. it progressively got worse. my rheumatologist told me about enbrel. i'm surprid how quickly my symoms have beemanaged. [ male announcer ] because enbrel suppresses your immune system, it may lower your ability to fight infections. serious, sometimes fatal events including infections, tuberculosis, lymphoma, other cancers, and nervo system and blood disorders have occurred. before starting enbrel, your doctor should test you for tuberculosis
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vice presidents are successful when they have any impact at all. primary, because the president wants them to be. because he allows them to function. be an important part of the team. and i think it helps in my case that i was not trying to run for president myself. that i wasn't -- when i was working on things like enhanced interrogation ter weeks or terror surveillance program i wasn't worried about how i was going to be perceived this the iowa caucuses some years hence. i was clear i was not a candidate, i wasn't going to be a candidate had no plans to run for president once i finished the vice presidency. i was there to carry out the wishes, desires and agenda of george bush. sometimes we agreed, sometimes we didn't. he always gave me the taoufpb to present my point of view. so i think i had an impact.
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and was fairly successful as vice presidents go. but he had a lot to do with that. >> greta: we've taken on the record a number of times to north korea, continued fascination of ours. you write in the book about the inablility in the bush administration to keep nuclear weapons from north korea. what happened? if you had a do over, what would you do? >> one of our major concerns was the issue of proliferation of nuclear weapons technology. we dealt with it effectively obviously when we got rid of saddam hussein. then muammar gadhafi saw what we had done to saddam and he surrendered his nuclear materials and bomb-making equipment. we took down the network that supplied gadhafi. and also dealt with the north koreans. those were all success stories. the one we did not succeed -- two really, one was iran.
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the other was north korea. north korea has been a difficult assignment. it was during the clinton administration. i'm sure as well for the obama people. what they did on our watch was they tested their first nuclear device in '06. they built a nuclear reactor, plutonium reactor for producing reprocessed plutonium, same kind of reactor they have in north korea, they built one in syria. that was destroyed eventually by the israelis, they took it out. uranium enrich capability, different kind of technology that gets you to the same end when they swore up and down they hadn't. i think the -- what i layout in the book are rules that i think need to be followed when we try to deal with these
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situations. consequences. if you are going to lay down a marker and say don't proliferate nuclear weapons technology to the terror sponsoring state you have to mean it >> greta: you gave then secretary of state condoleeza rice a little hell in the book. >> i did. i felt the advice that the state department was providing was wrong. i disagreed with it. i thought that we needed to have effective diplomacy, dependent upon your adversary believing if they didn't do what you were asking them to do there would be consequences. there were never consequences. what always happened with respect to north korea was, we kept making more concessions. lifting them off the destination as terror-sponsoring state for example. >> greta: one of the words you used with condoleeza rice, code word for women is tearful.
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i think -- she takes issue with that and some do describe her as tearful which might suggest her as weak. any do over want to take that back or you stand by that? >> i stand by. it was a description of a particular meeting in my office. >> greta: are you saying she is weak? >> no. >> as a woman i don't think that's a code wore. i think it certainly -- it was a description of what happened but i wouldn't take it as any kind of code word. i would add, if i might to this north korean story this point my dad made at the wind you see the state department do repeatedly. when you are dealing with a dictator, somebody who is uncooperative. too often the state department's response is let's make another concession. give them one more benefit maybe their behavior will change. i think the north korea story shows, especially when you look at what has happened since, which my dad always
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talks about the danger of that kind of approach. >> greta: miss the job? >> i enjoyed it very much, i really did. on the other hand, i'm a junkie, otherwise why would i have stayed 40 years in the business? i loved everyday i got to get up to go to work at the white house. whether i was the defense department are the ford white house. those were remarkable opportunities. on the other hand, i'm 70-years-old now. i've had some health problems. had a lot of fun writing the book. i always joked about book writing that the reason i had the job i did now is because i didn't write about the last one. i've obviously now written about all of them. i'm enjoying very much much better health than i had a year or so go. i've been back out on the river with my fly rod, writing books, traveling, promoting the book, spending time with the family and those seven
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grandchildren. life is good. so i don't have any burning desire to get back moo the arena. i've already done that >> greta: thank you mr. vice president. thank you liz. >> thanks greta. >> greta: straight ahead, incorrect rescue caught on camera. young man trapped in a flaming car. the next part you have to see. >> in is breaking news all eyes on the results of a key election in new york state entitle is a key congressional seat left open when anthony weiner stepped down if here are the new results just in. with just 15% of precincts reporting the republican candidate bob turner is in the lead with 55% of the vote. the democratic candidate david weprin is trailing with 45% of the vote. this seat has not gone republican since 1923. we'll bring you updates as we i go them, here on the record. [ male announcer ] do you know how you will react
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>> greta: you've seen our top stories but here's the bet of the rest. terrifying rescue caught on camera, motorcycle driver in utah trapped under a burning car. the biker swerved to avoid crashing into the car but ended up skidding under the car his bike bursting into flames. witnesses called 911 but jumped in to help before
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rescuers arrived. they lifted the burning car and pull the biker to safety. he's expected to make a full recovery. the driver of the bmw had minor injuries. >> check out this wild police chase in australia. stolen yellow car sped through the outback nearly two hours. the driver hit speeds of nearly 100 miles per hour, he jumped into another car and took off. he crashed again. cops finally caught up with him. he was arrested. >> finally, soldiers brought to tears in the middle of a busy airport. kelly osborne stepped off the plane in indianapolis. she got a marriage proposal from her boyfriend, also a former soldier. she was greated by family and friends and a diamond ring. the couple say they hope to tie the knot in the next six months. there you have the best of the rest. >> coming up, we know our nation's growing debt is
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